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pitchedBlarfy

14.1k points

2 months ago

why is this not punished

Irbyirbs

4.6k points

2 months ago

Irbyirbs

4.6k points

2 months ago

I love the anti-flopping rule in Hockey.

skater15153

4.1k points

2 months ago

There's a rule? I figured if you faked it both teams just beat the shit out of you for being a bitch haha

Irbyirbs

2.1k points

2 months ago

Irbyirbs

2.1k points

2 months ago

Literally can be put in the penalty box for Embellishment.

Dana94Banana

589 points

2 months ago

One of the many things I love about hockey is that fouls are punished by putting the offender into a tiny box of shame, for everyone to see. Football should adopt this too, especially for those who fake fouls or injuries.

Elliott_Queerest

162 points

2 months ago

Naughty Players are placed in the Box of Shame!!!! Into the Shame Box with you!

Each_Uisge

82 points

2 months ago

Shame! 🔔 Shame! 🔔 Shame! 🔔

skippyfa

293 points

2 months ago

skippyfa

293 points

2 months ago

"Fuck you, you're getting a fucking penalty"

https://youtu.be/Tdw4HAUlOBA

Bbaftt7

83 points

2 months ago

Bbaftt7

83 points

2 months ago

Was that really the ref that yelled that?! Omg lol

skippyfa

84 points

2 months ago

He's the ref soccer needs

Bbaftt7

24 points

2 months ago

Bbaftt7

24 points

2 months ago

Fuck yeah he is.

spinky342

538 points

2 months ago

spinky342

538 points

2 months ago

And usually fined as well

[deleted]

525 points

2 months ago*

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CptMisterNibbles

347 points

2 months ago

Plus a target for just mockery. The fans fucking hate floppers, as do players

spinky342

104 points

2 months ago

spinky342

104 points

2 months ago

Fuck yea they are.

jyzenbok

66 points

2 months ago

I wish there were a penalty box in soccer instead of the flag rule. It would be more exciting to have number advantages more often

sirsmiley

18 points

2 months ago

Diving is the main one but embellishment is added when it's legit but you make a farce of it

mark-five

569 points

2 months ago

mark-five

569 points

2 months ago

They also pull you off the ice if your injury caused the time to be stopped and if they determine you were acting the opposing team gets an additional player advantage. Flopping actually disadvantages the flopper's team and can cause them to lose.

joaquinsaiddomin8

189 points

2 months ago

Brilliant rule

d4nkc4nnon

164 points

2 months ago

It gets to the core of the problem right? Like taking away any incentive someone would have to act unsportsmanlike.

DelcoInDaHouse

101 points

2 months ago

Flopping was becoming an issue in NHL. They created the embellishment penalty and it went away.

[deleted]

141 points

2 months ago

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141 points

2 months ago

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skater15153

190 points

2 months ago

That's hilarious and awesome. FIFA needs to grow a pair and kill flopping. Ruins the game

CompSciBJJ

183 points

2 months ago

If only there was some tool they could use to watch the events after they happened, maybe from multiple angles, which would allow them to decide if a player was hit or not. I'm probably dreaming of the impossible.

BenPool81

36 points

2 months ago

Dude, come on. I know it's a problem but at least try to stay within the realms of reality.

thedude3535

207 points

2 months ago

"Fuck you, you're getting a fucking penalty"

I've played and watched hockey since I was 7, this is part of why I love this game so much. No shit taken, players or refs.

absolven

46 points

2 months ago

"Fuck you, you're getting a fucking embellishment... they pull his mic volume down" Ftfy

tynamite

87 points

2 months ago

fuck you!!

haha. what a call.

kingnothing1

53 points

2 months ago

My all time favorite call "Fuck you, you're getting a penalty" for diving

Ak47110

6.6k points

2 months ago*

Ak47110

6.6k points

2 months ago*

The guy clearly looks like he's in a lot of pain. It should be mandatory that once someone goes down like this, they're taken out of the game immediately and left on the bench, just to be sure they can recover okay.

I bet flopping would magically not be an issue anymore if they did that.

Edit: here's an example of a hockey player actually getting injured in the middle of a game. I'm not saying Football needs to get this brutal, but I'm also sick of seeing grown men roll around on the field like children. Thanks for sharing u/Moses-the-Ryder

https://youtube.com/watch?v=h15m87WsCHQ&feature=youtu.be

racso20

1.3k points

2 months ago

racso20

1.3k points

2 months ago

That's how it should be done

Get_Clicked_On

871 points

2 months ago

In that NFL if they have to stop play/time for you, then you have to sit out at least 1 play. They could easily add a time limit for these guys.

myboybuster

455 points

2 months ago*

Hockey the same. If play is haulted for your injury you have to come off for the issuing faceoff

Edit: thank you everyone for your spelling corrections. I will leave them to help raise awareness for dyslexia

Cool-Miner

123 points

2 months ago

Same with Lacrosse, field hockey, a lot of fast-paced sports. The difference with good ole Soccer is how it's more of a marathon than a sprint.

AFineDayForScience

169 points

2 months ago

In high school football if you get injured they make you sit out a play. Guys pop back up real quick

bankrobba

372 points

2 months ago

bankrobba

372 points

2 months ago

There should be post game fines and then suspensions handed down by the league.

Trucktrailercarguy

291 points

2 months ago

Agreed this makes soccer look like such a shit sport. Even in women's soccer they don't flop like this. It's really embarrassing I have no idea why nobody puts a stop to this.

rapier999

107 points

2 months ago

rapier999

107 points

2 months ago

Campbell broke his leg on this play, if I remember correctly. Brutal.

ErmahgerdYuzername

54 points

2 months ago

Yup. Broke his fibula.

a_lonely_trash_bag

33 points

2 months ago

Soccer player: ball comes within three feet of his head. He throws himself on the ground like someone just punched him in the face.

Campbell: Literally has a broken leg and keeps playing

Jesus Christ those soccer players have absolutely no shame, do they.

hilarymeggin

15 points

2 months ago*

This whole flopping thing has to be the most unattractive thing about soccer. It’s embarrassing to watch.

xannmax

192 points

2 months ago

xannmax

192 points

2 months ago

This isn't how it's done??? What? This is the easiest dad solution to the whole issue. Oh, what, you got an ouchie? Guess we gotta go home. Magically there's no more pain.

What do they do instead?

VaATC

210 points

2 months ago

VaATC

210 points

2 months ago

I was an Athletic Trainer for a Division 1 soccer team back in the early 2ks. At the start of preseason, when I addressed the team and coaches, I said that if someone was 'hurt' enough to draw me out onto the field there was a very highly likelihood that I would pull them off the field and that if I determined they had taken a dive I was definitely pulling them off the field. Let's just say the coaches and team captain really pounded home that taking a dive was not acceptable and it seemed to work. I let them know that I was there to take care of them, to make sure they got the best care I could provide, and that I and my profession would not be taken advantage of. We did not have a problem with players taking dives and it paid off a few times.

TheRC135

115 points

2 months ago*

TheRC135

115 points

2 months ago*

When I played hockey as a kid, one of my teammates collided with somebody on the other team and injured his shoulder. Instead of returning to the bench (which his injury did not prevent him from doing) he decided to do a soccer style flop and squirm, obviously hoping to draw a penalty.

Our coach screamed at him, and benched him for the rest of the game. After the game he lectured the entire team about "having self respect" and "acting like men."

We were 8 lol.

I've really grown to enjoy soccer, but the fake injuries and dramatic falls still genuinely disgust me. Its just so alien to the sporting culture I grew up with.

welestgw

681 points

2 months ago

welestgw

681 points

2 months ago

I feel like they should post-game yellow card this after review. Then if they already have a yellow card it eliminates them like normal.

[deleted]

762 points

2 months ago*

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Seanspeed

366 points

2 months ago

Seanspeed

366 points

2 months ago

Yea, it's effectively cheating.

Big_F_Dawg

167 points

2 months ago*

Taking a dive is 100% supposed to be a red card offense by the book.

Edit: just looked it up and FIFA officially says it's a yellow. I played through high school and was always under the impression diving was a red card offense. My dad's British and told me it was a red card and that he's seen people thrown out for diving. Seriously blows my mind that it isn't officially a red card offense.

Elite_Slacker

12.2k points

2 months ago

Do the players not shame eachother for this? It is pathetic and embarrassing.

BMonad

6.7k points

2 months ago

BMonad

6.7k points

2 months ago

Treat it like NFL concussion protocol and take them out for the remainder of the game if they’re so hurt that they’re rolling around in “pain” on the ground. This is such bullshit and a terrible look for the sport.

SlothBasedRemedies

3.6k points

2 months ago

This is the simplest solution. If you take a dive like that you're out for the rest of the game, because either you're injured or you're a cheating cunt and either way you don't belong on the field.

Melodic-Glass-6294

1.2k points

2 months ago

One of many reasons I like NHL, there's drawing penalties of course but if you embellish a dive and the Ref sees it your going to the box for 2 minutes and now the other teams got a power play.

Soccer/football would be so much better without that nonsense

RabidsouthAfrican

85 points

2 months ago

More sports need power plays

HugeHans

69 points

2 months ago

I hope they introduce MULTIBALL! MULTIBALL! MULTIBALL!

KindaBryan

13 points

2 months ago

BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERNS!

talldean

580 points

2 months ago

talldean

580 points

2 months ago

Soccer would be more watchable if the ref could eject someone trying to cheat like this.

polaarbear

128 points

2 months ago

The ref actually does have that discretion. They can give a player a red card for unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't believe it's ever been enforced for scenarios like this though.

handi503

56 points

2 months ago

I've seen yellows for simulation, but not a red in my time watching the game.

Melodic-Glass-6294

195 points

2 months ago*

Agreed, the best part of sports is watching top talent giving it their all, can't do that when a jerk falls down screaming because you bushed by them.

GarlicCancoillotte

38 points

2 months ago

And if he could also penalise players shouting at him. Like technical faults in basketball.

Imagine in any martial art shouting at the referee. I knew a guy in Judo who did once. Then he "received an arrow in the knee".

Vsx

252 points

2 months ago

Vsx

252 points

2 months ago

They aren't looking for a solution. Soccer has been like this since forever. There are a million easy solutions and they haven't done any of them.

masterventris

341 points

2 months ago

FIFA themselves congratulated Ronaldo on his fantastic skill as a striker by diving so successfully he got granted a winning penalty, despite the defender playing the ball.

The cheating is endorsed from the very top of the sport. The whole thing is a complete joke.

BMonad

57 points

2 months ago

BMonad

57 points

2 months ago

Why though, what possible incentive do they have for that.

vector_ejector

96 points

2 months ago

Goals and controversial calls bring eyes and dollars.

At the end of the day it's all about money.

dunkan799

322 points

2 months ago

dunkan799

322 points

2 months ago

In hockey if you get caught doing this stuff you get an embellishment penalty. I have even seen it happen where a legitimate penalty happened but the refs will also give the victim the embellishment penalty for trying to sell it more than necessary

Yah88

1.1k points

2 months ago*

Yah88

1.1k points

2 months ago*

They are, then they check online banking, buy a new car and all the sadness goes away.

DefNotMyNSFWLogin

188 points

2 months ago

Yes the whole team got a brand new Rolls Royce. That helps the bad feelings go away.

JakobSejer

36 points

2 months ago

A super-car a day, keeps the sadness away

mr_ji

153 points

2 months ago

mr_ji

153 points

2 months ago

I don't see why there isn't someone watching the replay then contacting the ref to have these assholes immediately ejected. Nobody likes the flopping. It's universally hated. Why not reign it in when it's so obvious? There really are no downsides and the sport would be better off for it.

RickJLeanPaw

57 points

2 months ago

VAR, red card. Give it a week or two and there would be no more of it.

RobbSnow64

129 points

2 months ago

Legit, I don't get how people can respect a sport when so many players do this.

SelloutRealBig

377 points

2 months ago

No sadly. It's baked into the sports culture at this point (though it could change if the leagues actually cared). Well actually it's baked into men's soccer. Women's soccer has way more class.

mfomatratzen

1.9k points

2 months ago

I wonder, do they show these replays on the stadium screen? Are players still this maniac even when confronted with evidence in front of 60 thousand people?

SharrkBoy

1k points

2 months ago

Yes, they do show it. There’s no shame for the players or teams because it can often play into a real advantage with free kicks. And literally everyone does it so there’s no moral high ground between players

It has very much become a strategic part of the sport that needs to be addressed. A massive source of valid criticism from would-be fans

Fomentor

12k points

2 months ago

Fomentor

12k points

2 months ago

Why do they continue to tolerate this? Start passing out red cards for flopping and this will end real fast!

The_Chorizo_Bandit

4.1k points

2 months ago

Yep. Reminds me of when Rivaldo faked getting hit in the face to get the Turkish player sent off. This guy is doing the same, he should be sent off retrospectively for it. Disgrace and embarrassment.

PvtTUCK3R

150 points

2 months ago*

Why not video review these? I mean they got time while they roll on the ground.

Thrannn

600 points

2 months ago

Thrannn

600 points

2 months ago

thats like 22 years ago and we sill all remember that scene

myballsinhoneynblood

157 points

2 months ago

20 years ago

vertigostereo

266 points

2 months ago*

Here it is.

https://youtu.be/HMHZusksnXk

Edit: Yeah, question everything before video replay. George Washington crossing the Delaware River on Christmas? You know it didn't look like the painting. I wanna see the replay.

LoveInHell

32 points

2 months ago

That’s insane. 😨

ADHD_Supernova

286 points

2 months ago

Let's not forget Neymar.

schnuck

74 points

2 months ago

schnuck

74 points

2 months ago

He’s still rolling and has never stopped.

Big_F_Dawg

52 points

2 months ago

Lol even Pelé came out to complain about Neymar. I like to imagine that having the greatest player ever throw shade had to hurt at least a little.

Phyllis_Tine

24 points

2 months ago

If there was a meet and greet with Neymar a fan should drop and roll away.

Anforas

12 points

2 months ago

Anforas

12 points

2 months ago

That is unsportsmanship, and a yellow card. So that is correct decision by the referee, despite the theatre by Rivaldo

OutWithTheNew

209 points

2 months ago

Just do what most professional leagues do and suspend them for a game after the fact. Getting kicked out halfway through a game you're losing is 'meh'. Not even getting to play in the next one sends the point home.

MenaBeast

49 points

2 months ago

Yup I like both. Red card boot and -1 player for this game, suspend 1 game after. Longer penalties for repeat offenders.

Pretend_Bowler1344

97 points

2 months ago

That rival do incident is infamous still.

TheStabbyBrit

1k points

2 months ago

FIFA looked into the issue of players taking dives, but after consulting with a large briefcase of bribes they confirmed that the problem doesn't exist.

InteMittRiktigaNamn

80 points

2 months ago

Cheaters need to stick together

Aedalas

23 points

2 months ago

Aedalas

23 points

2 months ago

Today, I feel injured.

rustyderps

513 points

2 months ago

If someone is on the ground doubled over in “agony”, force the team to use one of it’s (limited) substitutions to have the medical team evaluate them.

When flopping comes with less playing time, it’ll slow down a lot.

Monkulele

240 points

2 months ago

Monkulele

240 points

2 months ago

Right? Like, insist that anyone who goes down like that be carried off the field in a stretcher and taken off the roster for the rest of the game.

"No, no, it's ok. I feel better now, I can go back in." "No, no, I'm sorry, you may have suffered a head injury and we'll have to keep you under observation for the remainder of the match."

DragoonXNucleon

119 points

2 months ago

They did that for a bit. Carried them off in a stretcher, they would immediately run back in. You think these players care about shame? Winning a PK or FK might win the game, this is pure strategy.

If we want it to change, you have to have consequences. If its full on fake, instant red.

DrakkoZW

52 points

2 months ago

Exactly.

This isn't about how the players feel. The fact of the matter is, this is a competition, and flopping is one way to gain an advantage. No amount of shame will prevent this from happening so long as it helps them win games.

It needs to be penalized in such a way that it's a bigger risk than it is reward, to minimize the incentive to do it in the first place.

[deleted]

179 points

2 months ago

[deleted]

179 points

2 months ago

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winnower8

63 points

2 months ago

Doesn’t even have to be far fetched. Say if you are writhing on the ground you are now in concussion protocol and you need an independent medical evaluation.

xiovelrach

237 points

2 months ago

They’re supposed to give out yellows each time a player does this, no idea why they don’t

duffusd

49 points

2 months ago

duffusd

49 points

2 months ago

As a referee in the moment? Because he or his assistants didn't see it or at least didn't see it clearly. VR theoretically could do this, but it would become a slog, the main referee would have to go to the little booth thing and watch it disrupting the flow of the game even more than this would.

Post game is where this should be addressed imo. Fines or game bans like if they got a red card would do wonders in league and tournament play.

Just_wanna_talk

25 points

2 months ago

For high profile games they should have someone specifically to review these while the game goes on and if it's determined it's a flop they hand out a card later on.

GarretTheGrey

229 points

2 months ago

What they need to do is extend that to the refs that use the cameras.

If the field ref sees the dive with their own eyes, and it's in the penalty box, you're getting a card. If they miss it, you get away.

If they let the camera officials and linesmen get involved in that, there's gonna be 4 dudes fighting for the ball by half time.

Dantzig

174 points

2 months ago

Dantzig

174 points

2 months ago

You ignore the fact that FIFA is incompetent

rossta410r

172 points

2 months ago

Corrupt*

Dantzig

147 points

2 months ago

Dantzig

147 points

2 months ago

Dont sell them short, they can be both!

dat_silversun

55 points

2 months ago

This is the answer. The field ref can only see so much. The var refs should be able to just communicate flops to the field ref to the make the call.

liquidpele

48 points

2 months ago

No no, the VAR refs can only take back great goals because the persons erect dick was offside.

Seegtease

84 points

2 months ago

Yeah this totally ruins the game and is embarrassing to see. I don't get why it is allowed.

pm1966

64 points

2 months ago

pm1966

64 points

2 months ago

I've said this for years.

If someone is screaming in agony on the pitch, go to a video review. If they were struck in the face and it wasn't incidental/accidental contact, give a yellow or red to the offender. If it's a flop, instant red.

I guarantee you we'd stop seeing this shit instantly.

You don't even have to stop play. Have a replay official review such instances, if it turns out they determine it's a flop, radio it down to the head official. Blow whistle, evict player, give opposing team the ball.

Want to make sure it really stops immediately: give the other team a penalty kick, too.

tedweird

18 points

2 months ago

Or take it the other direction, act as if the player has been too injured to go on and remove them from the game on those grounds

Dorrono

292 points

2 months ago

Dorrono

292 points

2 months ago

Then Neymar would need to retire

gregsting

16 points

2 months ago

Did he stopped rolling eventually?

Advanced_Bit3236

6k points

2 months ago

So the dude holding the other dude is the one that flopped? Lololol. And I thought basketball was bad.

Holden_place

5.4k points

2 months ago

They should review video and give card for this shite

Syzygyzygyz

2.7k points

2 months ago

Yes they really, really should be punished. It's so embarrassing. In my opinion, this diving crap, which has been going on for so long, is one of the main reasons why most Americans will never get into the sport.

Zekeol

866 points

2 months ago

Zekeol

866 points

2 months ago

My son plays soccer it's so annoying seeing all these kids fake injuries then once they realize it's not working get up go back to playing

liciarae

263 points

2 months ago

liciarae

263 points

2 months ago

OMG my 9 yr old daughter plays and some of the teams are so blatant it looks like they have acting class instead of freaking soccer practice!

pees_on_dogs

149 points

2 months ago

It's insane to me that kids are doing this too.

BluntsnBoards

142 points

2 months ago

Just trying to play like a pro!

Weioo

25 points

2 months ago

Weioo

25 points

2 months ago

Gotta get them hooked young so they believe it's a normal thing!

_-Ewan-_

458 points

2 months ago

_-Ewan-_

458 points

2 months ago

If someone gets injured they should have a compulsory 15 minutes out of the game

Coastal_Tart

106 points

2 months ago*

Post game red card, miss the next game or if it impacted play e.g. a penalty was called then two games. Missed games are unpaid.

Shit will get solved quick.

The problem is that all the various national leagues would need to get on board for it to apply for UEFA, World Cup, etc. plus collectively bargained with the players associations.

DigNitty

163 points

2 months ago

DigNitty

163 points

2 months ago

If you’re writhing on the ground moaning, you’re out of the game for injury prevention IMO

tesseract4

67 points

2 months ago

This. If you're that hurt, you're unfit to play for the rest of the day and until a doctor signs off on you.

CalgalryBen

40 points

2 months ago

This is how it works in American football in college to an extent. If you cause an injury stoppage you HAVE to sit the next play out.

The way substitutions and play time works in soccer makes something like this hard to implement, but I do believe it helps in American football - nobody wants to miss the next play and be the reason the opponent scored or whatever else.

Humledurr

19 points

2 months ago

Wish they just actually dealt with it. If the injury is as dramatic as these players try to pretend then they be bannished of the field and go rest.

ChaplnGrillSgt

170 points

2 months ago

Hockey added an embellishment penalty. Soccer needs the same.

Flopping is why I don't watch NBA or any soccer.

Demiansmark

52 points

2 months ago

They give cards in the premier league for simulation. Not as often as they should though

DarkwingDuckHunt

32 points

2 months ago

The bigger leagues with money should add a "review after game" for flopping.

And hand out fines. And in tournament play Yellows.

Bdub421

16 points

2 months ago

Bdub421

16 points

2 months ago

The embellishment penalty in Hockey gave us this glorious soundbite.

https://youtu.be/Tdw4HAUlOBA

islesfiles

347 points

2 months ago*

Do what the nhl does. They shame players for pulling off this shit. It's why I don't watch soccer or basketball. I get that they're not "contact sports", but these are athletes, that shit is pathetic and they should be shamed for it.

Edit: just to clarify, I'm not trying to say soccer sucks, I played soccer for 4 years in high school and I loved it. These players that do shit like this are an embarrassment to the sport. Simple as that

rwhockey29

95 points

2 months ago

Refs to players in the nhl: "FUCK YOU YOURE GETTING A FUCKING EMBELLISHMENT!"

https://youtu.be/Tdw4HAUlOBA

onedaysomeday81

20 points

2 months ago

I love this ref's call, thanks for sharing.

limeybastard

10 points

2 months ago

GIVE YER BALLS A TUG

zonda747

164 points

2 months ago

zonda747

164 points

2 months ago

Honestly watching hockey ruined soccer for me. Watching someone lose teeth, get up, get stitches and not miss a shift and then comeback to this flopping every 3 minutes

Nopengnogain

83 points

2 months ago

What’s really hilarious is no matter where they’ve allegedly been touched, they always seem to go down in agony while holding onto their heads.

986532101

57 points

2 months ago

The refs are required to stop play for a head injury, so of course the players abuse the hell out of it.

spaketto

57 points

2 months ago

I play women's indoor soccer at a club. After every game each team gets a coupon for nacho's if they didn't have any yellow cards. They started doing this because so many of the men's teams were getting carded for ridiculous things. I've even never witnessed a yellow card in my women's league.

icantgetnosatisfacti

339 points

2 months ago

This type of garbage ruins the sport for me. Wish they would stamp it out

beefstyle

172 points

2 months ago

beefstyle

172 points

2 months ago

Well to be fair…. He might have actually been hurt. It looks like he may have sprained his dick on the other guys butt cheeks.

Feshtof

30 points

2 months ago

Feshtof

30 points

2 months ago

What you haven't heard of ol Piotr "Crushing Can" Zieliński?

Those cheeks are stronger than the jaws of a saltwater croc!

phazedoubt

12 points

2 months ago

Yeah, he tried to go for the surprise oil check to assert dominance but was shut down by his "buns of steel airtight seal"ᵀᴹ

nuge08

3.1k points

2 months ago

nuge08

3.1k points

2 months ago

Such an embarrassment to the game! Suspend him for the entirely of the tournament!

enterpriseF-love[S]

1.3k points

2 months ago

Unfortunately refs are way too spineless to punish this behavior.

International-Big-97

289 points

2 months ago

In the Bundesliga, they give out yellow cards for this. I'm not sure if they do it in any other leagues though.

zanzibartraveler666

88 points

2 months ago

‘Simulation’ is a cautionable offense by rule but it’s rarely given

TeamHewbard

42 points

2 months ago

Take his Rolls-Royce away!

rogo725

390 points

2 months ago

rogo725

390 points

2 months ago

I hate this shit. What a fucking loser. Card him and everyone else that does this crap.

ConvenientFriend

63 points

2 months ago

Please stop this. I can’t imagine there is a fan in the entire world that enjoys the strategy of a grown ass man rolling on the ground like a toddler. This shit is downright embarrassing.

bsquarehills

9.7k points

2 months ago

I absolutely love football- but It’s shit like this that I can’t defend to some of My friends that complain about flops. Ban him for the entire tourney- this madness has to stop. Implement auto replays at a booth and if they see in slow mo they are flopping - red card their Oscar Performance Asses out of the game.

gaybraham-lincoln

3.1k points

2 months ago

Post match bans or even fines would be the only way to stop this diving horseshit IMO.

memtiger

407 points

2 months ago

memtiger

407 points

2 months ago

It's astonishing that on the professional level, there isn't some type of review process. Either mid-game and/or post-game.

Something like this should be a yellow card plus a fine or worse. If players knew they were being watched on camera, they'd eventually change. But nah, football (soccer) acts like they are a 3rd rate sport that can't afford reviews.

the_original_Retro

760 points

2 months ago

Actually, with the creation of the above-mentioned penalty (which I strongly agree with, I'd be pleased to watch a football game with friends but I'd just get annoyed at this horseshit), any athlete getting red-carded out of the World Cup for deliberately pulling this utter garbage is automatically going to receive a "we need to urgently speak to you" from their sponsors.

And those sponsors would be including a new and extremely tight clause in any future contracts as well.

These athletes are worth billions of sales from their sponsor's endorsements. Billions.

TheMooseIsBlue

275 points

2 months ago

More immediately, they’d be fucking their team into a man-down disadvantage.

Lance_E_T_Compte

401 points

2 months ago

Hockey gives out a two minute penalty for this.

It's rarely called because the culture of the sport frowns on diving.

One might expect to hear something from your own teammates if you did this.

dengar_hennessy

305 points

2 months ago

Hockey players will get hit in the mouth with a puck, spit their teeth out, and go on to score a goal.

Demonic-Glaceon

47 points

2 months ago

Hell, Steven stamkos, captain of the lighting, got a puck straight to the nose, breaking it, and he went out a few minuets later with a face shield on

dengar_hennessy

37 points

2 months ago

Don't forget ovechkin while he was sitting on the bench.

And let's not forget that kid years back that died on the bench and after coming back to life wanted to get back on the ice

pugtime

91 points

2 months ago

pugtime

91 points

2 months ago

Or defend against slapshots with a broken leg

disposableatron

21 points

2 months ago

Who tf did that? I'm not surprised in the slightest, but I wanna know what chad did that.

mcpicklejar

50 points

2 months ago

Gregory Campbell broke his leg blocking a shot. Kept skating for bit after that.

densetsu23

33 points

2 months ago

Not that but Kevin Lowe played most of the '88 playoffs with a broken wrist and broken ribs, helping to lead the team to win the Stanley Cup.

Gretzky said Lowe showed as much leadership by example as he did with his words. He pointed to the 1988 playoffs when his friend played with a wrist fracture and, for the final three rounds, fractured ribs.

"That's Kevin," Gretzky said. "Whatever it took."

Witterson

19 points

2 months ago

Here's one example. And later on during that same playoff run one of his teammates went into a game with a broken rib and a separated shoulder.

Hockey players are a different breed, especially during the playoffs.

NoNoNames2000

19 points

2 months ago

With the teeth still sticking to the puck!

My_Manly_Mustache

68 points

2 months ago

I'd honestly be more interested in soccer/football if instead of this garbage they just duked it out like goons

LightOverWater

59 points

2 months ago

That's the nice thing about hockey: the corrective behaviour. If you're being a little bitch you will pay for it on the next shift.

JayString

34 points

2 months ago

You might enjoy Women's soccer then. Ironically, they play with more balls than the men.

xiovelrach

62 points

2 months ago

Refs are supposed to give yellow cards for this too, it just rarely happens

under_the_c

12 points

2 months ago*

You nailed it with the "culture" of hockey. It helps that there's built-in enforcement from other players to prevent this kind of thing. You try to pull some cheap shit in hockey, have fun looking over your shoulder for the rest of the time, until you get slammed hard by the goon on the other team.

smokeyjay

11 points

2 months ago

Canadians would also make fun/boo the player who obviously flopped and made a show of it.

It reflects poorly on the country to see a player that is representing them on the national stage act like this.

xiovelrach

549 points

2 months ago

I blame the refs tbh, this should absolutely be a yellow card for simulation. This type of shit devalues the game

Michelrpg

217 points

2 months ago

Michelrpg

217 points

2 months ago

This IS a yellow card for simulation but not all refs give one

AtheistAustralis

17 points

2 months ago

I played football for 15 years, and only once received a yellow card for "simulation". Ironically, it was from a fairly light tap on the ankle that caused me roll on it, and I ended up with a torn ligament that put me out for about 4 months. So I got a yellow card for "simulating" a very serious injury. The stupidest part was that it was my 2nd yellow that game, so I got sent off (had to be helped off since I couldn't walk), and suspended for a game that I obviously couldn't play anyway. And despite seeing my ankle swollen up like a balloon about 5 minutes later at halftime, the ref still refused to admit he'd made a mistake, because I "fell over too easily for such minor contact".

dabman

16 points

2 months ago

dabman

16 points

2 months ago

Any injury that takes a player down on the ground and stoppage of live play should require a medical check and removal from the game for a certain period of time for injury avoidance. During this time, if the supposed offending player is deemed flagrant, they should be carded appropriately. If the injured player is deemed simulating an injury, they are carded. Done deal.

justcallmejohannes

249 points

2 months ago

Pathetic

lethe25

432 points

2 months ago

lethe25

432 points

2 months ago

I’ve always wonder why the player who flopped isn’t just removed from the game. No questions asked. Clearly you’re severely injured and can no longer play.

mysixthredditaccount

55 points

2 months ago

Also, why is a doctor not rushed on to the field? Even if there was a 1% chance he was actually writhing in pain, they should send a doctor ASAP. (It's like they just assume they are all faking it.)

Quailman_z

686 points

2 months ago

It's the faking the injury afterward that fucking infuriates me. Bro, fine, flop and get a call, but don't roll on the ground for a full minute clutching at your ankle. It's so gross.

I'll get downvoted into oblivion probably, but in my opinion, football/soccer has the absolute worst sportsmanship of any professional sport. Flopping, fake injuries, the absolute abysmal ways players clearly waste time at the end of games, picking up and holding the ball and yelling at the ref when it's clearly the other teams throw in/kick. It happens constantly, and for a game so beloved by the world, I have no fucking clue why nothing is done about it. it's just treated like it's "part of the game." Fuck outta here with that.

saladroni

221 points

2 months ago

saladroni

221 points

2 months ago

I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but I’m gonna say it: I actually prefer watching the women’s leagues because they have fewer of these ridiculous problems.

golighter144

87 points

2 months ago

Wait really? I've ways wanted to start watching football but stayed away because all of the players acted like little bitches. If women's league doesn't have this nearly as bad then I'm all in.

OKImHere

19 points

2 months ago

Not just his personal opinion. It's pretty universally recognized that women don't flop.

Darkcool123X

94 points

2 months ago

And on top of that women often play rougher than guys because they aren’t little bitch that flops when someone blows air towards them. When I was younger and saw the older women play professional soccer, that shit was scary man.

Notysenberry-3116

11 points

2 months ago

It's so stupid. If they got this crap out of the game they'd be able to grow their market share in North America. It's not hard to address - issue fines, name and shame, etc.

Vagard88

164 points

2 months ago

Vagard88

164 points

2 months ago

At first I was like, maybe he got hit in the eye…nope. Then I was like, maybe his foot got stepped on…nope. It was the wind.

elbenji

16 points

2 months ago

elbenji

16 points

2 months ago

Same. Like did he accidentally hit his junk or something?

Nope. Just diving

Square_Kick_9451

294 points

2 months ago

And karma caught up win him in 82 min with that flop before Lewandowskis goal. Balance in the Universe restored.

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189 points

2 months ago

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189 points

2 months ago

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cameronward

51 points

2 months ago

how shameful do you have to be to attempt this at the world cup?

maddenmcfadden

50 points

2 months ago

"another stoppage due to injury" then they show this dipshit faking and flopping. I'll never understand this sport.

what's the point of competing with the entire world, if the entire goal is to act like you got hurt? that's just embarrassing and a waste of everyone's time.

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444 points

2 months ago

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444 points

2 months ago

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20onHigh

83 points

2 months ago

I watched the entire thing, and you’re absolutely right. They were flopping so much that the ref stopped addressing the dives they’d take. I noticed so many missed opportunities because a player would dive to get a call, the call would never come, and they’d shoot back up to chase the ball like nothing had happened. Hopefully during the next match Saudi Arabia realizes they can’t play on their back.

Seems like to beat Saudi Arabia in possession, all you have to do is touch their players. They’ll completely stop pursuing the ball in favor of screaming like they’d just been shot while rolling around on the pitch.

reardonlovechild

45 points

2 months ago

I would respect the sport more that after a game any replays like this result in huge fines and suspensions.

micah9639

188 points

2 months ago

micah9639

188 points

2 months ago

Automatic red cards for blatant flops like that. Have the ref have a mic connecting him to the people with the instant replay so they can tell him who is fake flopping like that so he can red card them. That will put a stop to the flops real quick

jack_hof

19 points

2 months ago

What you are suggesting would be an easy and reasonable solution to a big problem with the game. Therefore it has no chance of happening in soccer.

raystevens3535

275 points

2 months ago

This is the biggest complaint a lot of people have about soccer.all they need to do is remove these players from the rest of the game for "players safety" and this bullshit would stop.

Hygochi

135 points

2 months ago

Hygochi

135 points

2 months ago

Or develop an actual culture of mocking these players. Can't tell you how many football fans tell me it's just "gamesmanship". Hockey you develop a bad reputation with fans fast and are roughed up more by players if you dive so much.

bankholdup5

38 points

2 months ago

Hockey is like the exact opposite from soccer in this regard.

hamptonwood

14 points

2 months ago

Better actor than player.